David Shrigley: Reading books, occasionally smoking weed, walking my dog.
Sébastien Tellier: (laughs) You must remember to treat it like a game.
Shrigley: But there are layers of me trying to deceive myself or trying to forget what I was originally inspired by.
Tellier: Maybe. The rest of the time I’m trying to do the very best with the savage within me, that savage state of mind.
Shrigley: There are four stages.
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Tellier: Instead, the organization said that that was impossible to do. It was too dangerous.
Shrigley: It might not be the most ubiquitously understood reference.
Tellier: When things are simpler, they are brighter.
Shrigley: But you do have to do something.
Tellier: So he gave me fake hair and asked me to take off my sunglasses so he could better see within me.
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Shrigley: And she knows the drill. So that's usually the way it works: there's image, text, text, image.
Tellier: Very theatrical.
Shrigley: Yes. I mean, obviously, I talk a lot of shit, but usually, it's not offensive, like some artists I could mention.
Tellier: I really just wanted to create a big incident with this cart that I was driving, to be successful in crashing that golf cart.
Shrigley: It's an opportunity to occupy the space.