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Jun 13, 2025, 06:28AM

There’s Another Level to This

A 2023 British Film Institute interview with documentarian Errol Morris vs. a 2025 SPIN interview with rapper Dennis “Ghostface Killah” Coles.

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Dennis “Ghostface Killah” Coles: You travel. You go into the next dimension.

Errol Morris: You don’t get to do that every day, and it’s something that I’m immensely proud of.

Coles: [laughs] What else could you really ask for?

Morris: It’s pretty frightening, actually.

Coles: There’s another level to this.

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Morris: We tell ourselves so many stories about the world, about ourselves, about other people, that invariably we lose track of what’s real and what’s imaginary.

Coles: That’s what we need to talk about.

Morris: No. Just think for a second.

Coles: You think you’re feeling mad happy, and you could be happy, but for every action, there’s an equal reaction. That’s what I believe.

Morris: Can anybody do anything about it?

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Coles: Whatever you’re doing, if it’s a little bit negative, just don’t overdo it.

Morris: The ugly reality is that there may be no such thing.

Coles: Yeah, they come and show me a bunch of things. And they had a vision.

Morris: And then, they find a pair of pants hidden behind the safe, with a note attached to it, which turns this whole historical investigation into some grim joke.

Coles: I just know that this is real.

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